Craig Kerstiens of Heroku

I got on Skype with Craig Kerstiens, who I met at Heavybit's DevGuild event back in February.

We talk about evangelism at scale, how to setup a program, organizational design, the history of evangelism and a lot more. I kinda dragged the convo off course we nerded out on certain things I've been studying, I hope you find it entertaining.

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